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Hi, I have some of these hooks at home and can’t find anything to tie on? Do you have any patterns in mind that would fit on them?
Thanks!
They are 7111b mustad hooks on which I cut the straight eye. I straightened the point a little bit so I could make it around 1mm longer than where the head would be with the eye. I could probably make them 1-2-3mm longer if needed.
Irish flies for sure or many other patterns like Doctors and such.
Blacker!
This is the exact same hook.
Awesome! Thanks to both of you! Jaquis Gagnon, what’s the book in the pictures?
Some irish patterns would look good on those.
They are a tad too short if you cut them though. You need to straighten half the eye to get the right proportions for Blacker flies. And for the Irish ones as well I would say.
Blacker’s Spirit Fly No1
I used dyed CDC as subs for the COR and used Amherst crest for the topping. I think it turned out ok.
Very nice!. Better than OK in MHO. You do hook too?
Lovely job Arno 👍👍
Lovely job - the CDC sub isn't the best but the hook is beautiful. Dx
Ghost of Christmas past. 8/0 Jonny Sexton special.
Oooft, lots of work in that one! Lovely, well done 👏👏👏👏
Lovely Richard
Like it so much Richard
Superb job, all the way.
Very nice Richard! Ghost flies will always be my favorite flies so I’m also hunting for the real feathers to tie them.
Cracking job. Dx
Excellent job Richard see your got your horns in the end toot toot!
Quite a fly, thanks for sharing 😁
Wow!
Thank you for the comments gents. Just trying to adjust and improve with every fly.....onwards and sideways 😂
Trout size Blue Charm
As you know, I actually think this is a perfect salmon fly size! 😉 Beauty my friend!
Superb jobby. Though the few vintage ones I have, are all sparse and thin, in that this is a preferred low water pattern. I’d prefer these sizes on doubles, as I feel they hook better when bigger fish are after them. What is your experience?
Had to get in on the tiny Doctor fun.
Silver Doctor of course. Wish I would have started the tag back just a little further and made the yellow floss shorter, otherwise I’m fairly happy with it
Super slick. I prefer size 8 and smaller on doubles. Seems to hook better when you get a big one. What’s your take?
Always lots of focus on Salmon flies from the back end of the Victorian period but here is an example by P.M.Jones of 111 Jermyn Street, London from 1869-1872 only. This example was buried in an antique wallet and remains in mint, unused condition. Like the price, 5/6, so not cheap....
Superb... It's one of the great misnomers that quality flies were banged out ten to the dozen (- only true for production line factory flies which were their equivalent of Nigerian-tied hack stuff) - prime quality WERE expensive (back then a well stocked fly box was BY FAR the most expensive item in a fisherman's kit). I read somewhere that Jamie Wright only tied 5-6 flies a day when doing proper full dresseds. Dx
PS You only have to look at old price lists to see how very expensive some materials were back then - particularly GP crests (rather than Chatterer - though you'd probably only get 2-3 Chatterer flies tied from a skin) - never mind GBoP which Kelson boasts cost him something silly (forget how much - but several weeks average wages of the time) to know that a correctly tied fancy pattern HAD to be costly. Dx
Such a superb looking fly....beauty!
Quick tie Spey Dog for the box...
A beauty!Makes me feel like tying a Spey fly.
Gorgeous. Remember that the amount of tinsel ribs decides the density of the hackle.
Stunning buddy 👏🔥💯
Cracker
A few Rangers.
A traditional, gold, blue and black.
Love Rangers.......Davie's Durham Ranger video got me hooked 😂 I have a few nice ones.
Good evening! What do you think about book "Rod fishing in clear waters by fly, minnow and worm by Henry Wade", probably 1860s. Page 206. Spey pattern
Anyone know what the reference barn-door-fowl would be?
I have knew yet.
Here
Common domestic cock or hen. So from that area.
Cool pattern. Go for it!
Hi, Robert! Of course in the weekend, I should be thinking how it better made and little to read about this time of course from others books, thank you!!!
Sounds a lot like Stoddarts Spey
What would you use to sub for the male heron?
"Great Scott"
A small selection of Jock Scott Salmon flies in their various colours including silver, blue, orange, claret.
Welcome aboard - a lovely selection of JSs - specially the one with the extra crow veilings. Dx
Thanks for joining our humble corner, Jason. These are gorgeous. I really should dress a few for my box. Would you believe I’ve still never dressed a JS?
The Kircudbrightshire Dee from Francis. Subbed Kite with Crowned Crane. Not sure if it’s winged correctly?
My guess is that it would be winged vertically but not tented. I dont think a horizontal wing set would necessarily be considered "wrong" by the inventor though. Nice simple fly
FF describes it as leaning towards Tweed style so Kyle has it pretty much as it should be . Nice fly I might add.....
Lovely job indeed.
Gary Weir
A couple of Childers that I've done recently, next to a freestyle that went wrong. A few mistakes in the Childers, so, got another one in the vice.
Dave says... Please keep those tacky freestyles off this group. Have edited your photo and improved the lighting. Thx
Thanks Dave. Forgot about the rules. Freestyle was for a stripdown anyway 😂🤣
Why are the Scott's receiving better treatment than the Welsh.....picture editing.....lighting......I just get deleated 😂 I'm taking this up with my MP.
True antique toppings and tippets, in an excellently preserved state. Even the spade crests have red tips. The tippets are less orange than what we have today, because of domestication (food, probably), while the toppings are certainly more yellow than golden yellow, with tips that are close to red. Straight, all of them. Pure bliss.
A rare thing these days!!! ❤️❤️
Awesome!
Woohooh! And ti’s almost Christmas my friend!
Excellent shape I could do with a few of them
That's what many of the 5000 golden pheasants (a certain breed of GP) looks like. It's even better if you get the dark morf of them. I have a head from one where virtually all the toppings have red tips. A very nice find, Robert!
Very nice. I oddly don’t like them shaped like that lol. Hard to explain but I have a very specific shape that I look for.
99.9% of GP heads come from birds trapped in the wild
Belter buddy 🔥👏
A couple of Childers that I've done recently, next to a freestyle that went wrong. A few mistakes in the Childers, so, got another one in the vice.
Rogan's Deadly Bobber, tied at size 3.
Minor detour from the original; used green parrot in place of green swan.
Little jewels as they are referred to...need a little work on the wing style. Its been a while since I've done the full brush Rogan wing. This one came out a bit dense for such a small hook.
Deadly for sure! Beautiful rendition, again.
One of my favorite patterns to see tied.
"Original Silver Wilkinson" in the book Fishing by Henry Cholmondeley Pennel Salmon and Trout 1889
Being inspired by Roberts recent adventures into small classics on doubles, I felt inclined to embark on similar endeavors myself. I’ve had a small size 8 blind eye antique hook I’ve wanted to utilize for something nice.
Went for a Doctor, like RV, though I settled on the blue variant. Gutted with mono and will give this a swing for sea trout.
Throat is a full four turns of jay, though it being a right sided feather almost none of the color shows from this side. It was a fresh feather that I soaked in water for a good while, making it possible to split it very finely.
Wing has all the materials, though the GP, Guinea and turkey sandwiched between the married colors and the tippet strands are totally obscured by the latter. Oh well. Wing in one go to save thread wraps, then the mallard and topping. Skipped the horns and the cheeks.
Quite satisfied with it and looking forward to swing it.
Sweet as Stig
Marvellous fly, mate. I do feel the wing is disproportionally long, but on doubles, it really adds to the way it behaves on the swing. Cracking job, actually.
May I ask what kind of hook this is? Very very lovely fly. That's a fishing weapon!
Very Cool! Got a small double in the vice now! Hmmmmm, now you got me thinking of what to lash on to it!
The Blue Doctor - Francis dressing
2/0, a little larger than prescribed
Very nice, mate.
Gorgeous!
Major...I don’t think I’ll be doing this one again as it’s a right Tw*t to tie!!!!
You'll get back to it in time, mate. Trust me 🙂
Looking good to me!
Looks pretty damn good to me. Dx
Lovely job Stuart.
Awesome tying! Isn’t it precisely because it is a Tw*t to tie that you will get back to it? 🤔🤣
👏🔥💯 WOW
It's the snipe feather that makes it a twat
Looks good though stu
Blacker’s River Tay No. 4 tied in hand.
I subbed the puce fur with a mix of red and pink.
Looks pretty good to me 👍
Cracking job. Now let the cat chew it up, so it looks like what people think Blacker flies look like 😛
Found some really Nice, old doubles at an auction the other day, payed almost nothing. I really have a thing for doubles and i look forward to make something new out of them! Anyone willing to take a guess on who made these?
Do you know?
Dublin points, Limerick bends. Irish hooks, but not neccesarily from Ireland. You’ll never guess the maker, without a labelled box. Just enjoy them 😉
Whoever made them they are a very nice hook enjoy.
Lovely irons ..
I have mainly been shaping and filing my points to go slightly outwards, but, I did this one last week and it has grown on me. I think there is something more natural looking with a slight inward point like this.
Hook points are an interesting thing. They are designed to add grip while the fish pulls on the hook. Position and shape are of paramount importance. If anything in the design is flawed, the hook point and barb will create a nasty hole that offers very little hold. When all is in balance, the hook point changes direction when pulled harder, penetrating deeper and into fresh meat, always offering maximum hold. You see, the spear and the shank together, position the hook point to make the most out of this concept. I understand that you’re not going to fish this hook, of course. If you like this kind of hollow point, take a look at some Bartleet hollow point hooks. This particular shape you have now, wants a Dublin Point in my eyes. But of course, you’re free to disagree 😉
Almost a hollow point
Get a life. 😱😱😂😂
Nice work, but be wary of straying into a 'cartoon' hook look.