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3 hours ago

Matt Bagshaw

I'm running close to the end of my stash of pearsalls silk thread...before buying more of the same, was curious what other silk thread options people have been using to tie with??? I find Pearsalls quality can differ widely between colors, and even within lots of the same color. Thanks in advance! ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Piper silks based here in the UK, they do fly tyres silk in 100 metres spools at less price than Pearsalls

I find it get brittle so I order right from Pearsall's. Cigar shops carry "humidification pillows" that I wonder may be good to keep in metal tinsel and silk thread storage? Keeps it like 76% humidity.

At Semperfli we do have a range of pure silks that we have tried our best to match the original Edmonds Lee colours....

Matt, 54 Dean Street has these fantastic au ver a soie silks. I just bought some Alberto C. silk thread that seems just like pearsall's but is nice and fresh.

I use Krenik pure silk - a fair bit thicker than Pearsall's but a great deal stronger so you have pull tighter. Dx

Looks like I have a few options...thanks for the input! Will check these out for sure. I tried going back to UTC other day, and it was a nightmare lol.

Matt, are you loading a bobbin with Pearsalls? I've tried to load pearsalls on a midge bobbin but it kept breaking on me, I've thought about re-spooling the silk thread onto a normal sized spool to fit the bobbin I like using...

19 hours ago

Matt Bagshaw
This is a Haynes pattern from Francis.  No1 for the Blackwater.  Tied the wing as described in the tying section of Francis.  All the material together, creased the tie in point with my thumbnail, and whacked it all on there.  So some material popped through more than others.  GP side tail is a nice change too.

This is a Haynes pattern from Francis. No1 for the Blackwater. Tied the wing as described in the tying section of Francis. All the material together, creased the tie in point with my thumbnail, and whacked it all on there. So some material popped through more than others. GP side tail is a nice change too. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Stunning Matt

Superb and ultra fishy looking. Dx

#inspired!

I have to say, I still don't get the single rib, multiple hackle thing...I can do it, but its quite the fumble. No idea how they did that in hand. I did notice a few in the Farlows book that use three strands of twist, so i'm guessing you tie each hackle off with a strand of the rib?

Awesome tie ...😉

1 day ago

Piero Sistino

CHILDERS size 2 in hand for fishing
Wing and hackle are not too long, is the hook that is too short !! LOL
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Excellent!

Superb job. Dx

Thanks so much Dave !!

Lovely!

1 day ago

Stefano Du Prè
Another Dee, i m tying for salmon fishing next season.
Tricolour , Alec Jackson s spey hook # 2091 1 1/2, in conventional scale is longer than a 6/0 hook.
Again used true silver tinsel for adding more weight to the fly.

Another Dee, i m tying for salmon fishing next season.
Tricolour , Alec Jackson s spey hook # 2091 1 1/2, in conventional scale is longer than a 6/0 hook.
Again used true silver tinsel for adding more weight to the fly.
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Already said what I said!

Lovely work.

Lovely. I need to try a Dee fly sometime.

4 days ago

Stefano Tieri
Ephemera n°4 The Shannon, used twisted horsehair

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Very cool. Love the topping wing.

I love you!!!!!!

Stunning .. !

Superb !!

Incredible😁

Great fly my friend !!!!!!

and I love your beautiful No.6. Amazing Italian memories. Thank you Stefano.

just great! (y)

I'm glad I could share beautiful time in Italy Stefano, And thanks for the beautiful fly

Superb fly. That wing is absolutely gorgeous. The head is not to my liking, I have to say. I miss that bullet shape we need for the swimming 😉

9 hours ago

Robert Verkerk

Competition update: With all flies now received in good order, the judging process has now started. A little later than anticipated. Results are expected before the end of this month.

Also once more a big thanks to our sponsors Semperfli, Lagartun, who support the website and the competition, and competition sponsors FeathersMC and the Victorian Hook Company (John Saxton).
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2 days ago

Piero Sistino

The Gordon 3/0 in hand tied during the class held in Turin yesterday
I'm very proud of all the attenders, they put themselves to tie their first classic salmon fly, not the simplest one, in addition in hand !
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Well done!!!! Great initiative. Our craft needs more initiatives like this. Hope you are well.

Fantastic. Gordon said it, and I agree 100%. Never looked at anybody as customers, btw. We are the community, you guys are my partners.

Great to see proper sized JC on them! Dx

1 day ago

Jim Montgomery
TE  Pryce Tannatt - Iris

Robert - Did the best I could considering the conflict between the description in The Book and what I was seeing on the plate. Still have to fiddle with the toppings to get them to lay pretty and just might add the peacock shown in the plate depending on the ensuing discussion.

Still .... an impressive pattern

TE Pryce Tannatt - Iris

Robert - Did the best I could considering the conflict between the description in "The Book" and what I was seeing on the plate. Still have to fiddle with the toppings to get them to lay pretty and just might add the peacock shown in the plate depending on the ensuing discussion.

Still .... an impressive pattern
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Lovely fly, my friend the stormbreaker. I think the balance is spot on, and the curve to that wing is very sexy. I think your interpretation is excellent. It is this bit of the process that many of us enjoy most.

Nice job but it looks very big to me - I've seen the original and it's about size 2. Dx

1 day ago

Greg Nault
2/0 Baron. Please bring thoughts  (not happy with veilings )

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Hey there mr, looking pretty good eh

Looking good. Maybe shorten that tail up as it looks a touch high. Just my thoughts. Are you tying the tail in at the white?

Lovely job. Veilings - the dodgy way that pheasant sub behaves when tied is the primary reason I use the real thing. Use spiker hackles (don't take my word for it, check Kelson) and DON'T artificially drag the body hackles down - it's nothing to do with how original flies were tied and has been proven to increase the risk of contracting impetigo. Dx

Thanks Dave! Used scarlet minivet, my tinsel tie off was on bottom directly where veiling was to be tied! The thought process which I now have because of all the feedback is definitely on a different level! I just need to listen to that voice in my head whenever in doubt! I have a race car driver mentality and I believe this hurts my the most! However the practice and posting is of the upmost advantage that without this group I would never have! An added bonus is getting to know some of the group members and receiving their generous advice and comraderie has been priceless! I will certainly pay it forward when given the opportunity to do so! One word of advice to all is take criticism with a open mind knowing that this group is truely here to share not to demean anyone's efforts! Thanks to all for everything!

3 days ago

Stefano Du Prè
Glentana , Harrison Bartleet #1/0. Always trying to tie classic for fishing. This pattern worked very well last July in Namsen with high and bit coloured water. My swedish friend Lasse caught some nice salmon with a large size Glentana. My friend Lasse has a long experience of salmon fishing with classic flies, i guess more less 40 years. He suggested me to find true silver made tinsel to give the fly a good weight and Balance when fished. So i asked to a silversmith to make some silver tinsel for me. I have to say it works very well and gives a right weight to the fly...let s see next year how those silver tinsel made flies will work with salmon...

Glentana , Harrison Bartleet #1/0. Always trying to tie classic for fishing. This pattern worked very well last July in Namsen with high and bit coloured water. My swedish friend Lasse caught some nice salmon with a large size Glentana. My friend Lasse has a long experience of salmon fishing with classic flies, i guess more less 40 years. He suggested me to find true silver made tinsel to give the fly a good weight and Balance when fished. So i asked to a silversmith to make some silver tinsel for me. I have to say it works very well and gives a right weight to the fly...let s see next year how those silver tinsel made flies will work with salmon... ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Like these hooks a lot , Partridge Harrison Bartleet, but difficult to find and quite expensive..does anybody give me some references for other Dee style hooks to buy on the net ? Thanks in advance for any suggestion...

Oh..i have also the Alec Jackson spey hooks, really nice, but i guess they are a bit too thin for my liking...

Not even close to perfection but still my first classic salmon fly ever. I got some instructions from a friend and tried for a black doctor. I have been tying saltwater flies all those years since I started but after trying this style I can see for myself that the focus is going to change a little bit. I have never experienced tying something more fascinating that a classic salmon fly so Im definitely going to continue with that.

Not even close to perfection but still my first classic salmon fly ever. I got some instructions from a friend and tried for a black doctor. I have been tying saltwater flies all those years since I started but after trying this style I can see for myself that the focus is going to change a little bit. I have never experienced tying something more fascinating that a classic salmon fly so I'm definitely going to continue with that. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Dam nice job for a first go at it

Not bad at all. It helps to have experience from before. Look at the winging tutorials on the website to get a proper impression of how many slips per material and how to mount them to get that traditional wing shape. Really good start.

Good start, your winging technique (placing the wing etc around the head not on top of it) is the key issue - use the drop bobbin technique as covered in Marc's excellent tutorial on the website (as mentioned by the Orange Viking). Dx

Last of the doctors and one side finished.

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Cool

To be proud of. Slick looking collection, and consistent tying.

Cool collection!

SWEEET!..next will be Dr Livingstone, I presume ? 😉

Very nice. That’s all you need for a nice day on the river

Gonna be a great tin!

Look great Richard, you have my address.;)

Looks like there's some history to the fly box itself .

Great looking collection.

Beautiful collection there Richard! What's the largest size fly you have in your box? I'm in the market for something to safely hold my larger, classic flies.

3 days ago

Anthony Smith
2/0 Dewdrop (Byron Bjerke hook). Ive eyed this pattern for some time. Its in my top 5 fiddliest GMK patterns. Fairly satisfied for a first go. Usually I see it done with tinsel butt at front section too, but the dressing doesnt say this. Next time may do GF as underwing component instead of side, it kinda obscures underwing as a side. Head was hard to keep minimal.

2/0 Dewdrop (Byron Bjerke hook). I've eyed this pattern for some time. It's in my top 5 fiddliest GMK patterns. Fairly satisfied for a first go. Usually I see it done with tinsel "butt" at front section too, but the dressing doesn't say this. Next time may do GF as underwing component instead of side, it kinda obscures underwing as a side. Head was hard to keep minimal. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Wow. Busy little thing. Interesting tag, tail and body.

Cool fly.

Superb tying! I have also considered that as a diffucult pattern and never tried. You nailed it very well.

Outstanding fly Tony!!

Super!!

Never really liked this dressing much for some reason but that's some fine work Tony, the head is as good as they get.

Brilliant tying Tony.

Black Doctor Size 4.

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2 days ago

Ian Barrett
Lol.....well I gave a first try at tying in hand.  It was brutal!  I felt good starting out but then this fly got away from me on so many levels.  Haha, look at that head.  I wont give up, Im just going to need serious practice to get good at this. 

Black doctor size 1.

Lol.....well I gave a first try at tying in hand. It was brutal! I felt good starting out but then this fly got away from me on so many levels. Haha, look at that head. I won't give up, I'm just going to need serious practice to get good at this.

Black doctor size 1.
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Gnarly right bro!

Is that one of the new Eumer Tungsten Wool coneheads? Well done. You'll find tying in had on gutted hooks is a GREAT deal easier - that ability to temporarily catch the thread under tension between the shank and the gut diffuses huge amounts of tying stress, sudden unravellings etc so you relax and tie much better... In fact I've suggested in the past that the heavy move towards use of vices and the changeover to eyed hooks being concurrent is no coincidence. Sir Slackalot PS The hook is doing you no favours - from one in-hand novice to another I'd say try to minimise curve balls - at least initially in tying in-hand - why battle with funny hook shapes that make proportion awkward and unnecessary herl butts etc when you have quite enough to worry about with finger juggling, learning a whole new set of muscle memory, cramp etc

Should definitely save this one for a future chuckle 😝 But it isn’t all that bad, actually.

I think it would have been awesome to say “for fishing” then you may not have been judged 🤣🤣🤣

🤘🏼

the old "woolen condom" head 😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣 condom head 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ian Barrett if we didn’t love you.....

Oh...that just hurt my one feeling. Don't you know big bell headed flies are the future of classic tying. That fly will be in the gallery in 50 years as a perfect example of "woolen condom" style.

And just one more slightly smaller Black Argus (Phillips #6) from the vice.

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Nice front section of body 😉

Gorgeous set of flies!

Nicest of the trio.great job..

Thanks Kyle.

😍

2 days ago

Stig Larssen
Driffield Angler No. 6, The Golden Fly. Size 1/0 hook. By one Alexander Macintosh (never heard of before).

I though this was a funny pattern but still nice colors. Wish I used a black hook to offset the gold body better.  Also nice to use those small Jay feathers that are too small for hackles. 

Had to pull up my artistic license (if I ever got one) and mount the jayfeathers with the blue UP (pattern calls for blue down) because my feahters only had the right curve with the blue up.

Also first pattern Ive seen that calls for Common pheasant tail. 

Head was kind of a challenge. I need to practice tying down near the wing.

Driffield Angler No. 6, The Golden Fly. Size 1/0 hook. By one Alexander Macintosh (never heard of before).

I though this was a funny pattern but still nice colors. Wish I used a black hook to offset the gold body better. Also nice to use those small Jay feathers that are too small for hackles.

Had to pull up my artistic license (if I ever got one) and mount the jayfeathers with the blue UP (pattern calls for blue down) because my feahters only had the right curve with the blue up.

Also first pattern I've seen that calls for 'Common pheasant tail'.

Head was kind of a challenge. I need to practice tying down near the wing.
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Very cool pattern! Nicely done!

Love it!!

Thanks guys! Ive just read the description right from mr. Alexander’s book (I tied it based on Radencichs book). I realize now that I’m way off the original pattern! 🙂 I should have no taper in the body, and the wing should be a true mixed wing, fastened pointing forward and then folded back over after he body is done. Like Blacker, only split into a V shape, apparently. Here’s part of the text; [...] fasten your hackle; then bring the wings forward, pressing them down to the tail of the fly, divide the wings into two equal parts; take your silk, well waxed, and, crossing it three or four time between them, make two or three laps behind the wings, in order to throw them forward: and lay rather flat on the back of the fly than otherwise.

i like your tying!

2 days ago

Kenneth Andersen
tried out for a irish tonight.. gossamer silk. 1/0 limerick:)

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2 weeks ago

Joonas Pysäys
Mixed wing training. Butcher tied on 1/0 antique double hook.

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Beautiful job sir

Superb!!

Cracking fly.

Excellent!!!!

Awesome

Looks great!

Now THAT's a Butcher. Dx

Thanks all! Wing is tied tips down. First I married the main wing in style of Kelson's mixed wing and then gently brushed it out.

Well done Joonas!

I love this offering, your style is great Joonas, I cant wait till you start in handing these. It will posses an element not achievable in the vise. Awesome fly brother

Really really nice. That is on lucky hook! 🙂

Stunning!!

2 days ago

Stefano Du Prè
Tartan, Harrison Bartleet # 1/0.

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3 days ago

Stig Larssen
Got inspired by all the nice Silver Doctors that were posted here a week ago. Attempted to tie this one per Kelsons pattern, size 2/0.  My first fully brushed mixed-wing. Fun to tie this one. Followed the SBS guide in CFTN. Mounted the wing in four turns to get a good grip on all materials. I could have gotten more taper in the wing tips I recon. Throat got a little small I think, and I need to straighten the topping a little too.

Got inspired by all the nice Silver Doctors that were posted here a week ago. Attempted to tie this one per Kelsons pattern, size 2/0. My first fully brushed mixed-wing. Fun to tie this one. Followed the SBS guide in CFTN. Mounted the wing in four turns to get a good grip on all materials. I could have gotten more taper in the wing tips I recon. Throat got a little small I think, and I need to straighten the topping a little too. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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When a body doesn’t have a hackle, it is wise to compensate with a longer throat. I don’t think this is a rule though. Great fly.

Good job

Thanks guys! Robert that is a good remark, And it makes sense for the overall proportions. Now I have a little short cock hackle in blue, with stiff fibers, and the gallina which is much softer. The blue hackle sticks out through the gallina in a way I don’t like. Was those typical stiff cock hackles always called for as throats and body hackles or is it acknowledged practice to use hen or softhackles?

Have a look at the Kelson Collection in the galleries on the website. There is a hacklebook there, full of gorgeous fluff. I use both cock and hen hackles.

Black Doctor size 6.

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Fine work!

Thnx Greg. I still struggle with the size.

Yeah! That's small!

Sick sick man. 💪🏼

4 days ago

Jarkko Reinola
Back from the slackers club! Other things have kept me so busy that I havent tied much of anything. Ive been thinking trying to tie fly in hand for a long time. Now, I finally tried. So this is my first in hand, Gardener. Hope you like it.

Back from the slackers club! Other things have kept me so busy that I haven't tied much of anything. I've been thinking trying to tie fly in hand for a long time. Now, I finally tried. So this is my first in hand, Gardener. Hope you like it. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Superb!!

Brilliant.

Thanks guys!

I love it, Jarkko.

4 days ago

Loran Navarro
Silver grey.  6/0. Missing some materials since the hackle broke and a nice fit was thrown trying to put the sides on.... which didnt happen.

Silver grey. 6/0. Missing some materials since the hackle broke and a nice fit was thrown trying to put the sides on.... which didn't happen. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Nice try, Loran. You didn't get the sides on because the wing setting is off. The two sides have to be dead centre on the hookshank, flat back to back against each other. If this isn't done properly, sides will always fan out and give you more than the usual trouble. Look at Marc Leblanc's tutorial for a married wing on the website, and practice some more.

I'm happy to see you trying to tie a classic and work on technique. There is a lot of good in this fly for sure 👍

Yes, as Josh points out, there is a lot of good to say about your effort.